Kaitoukage - arcane/fire mage

[Kaitoukage]

1. In Game Character Name.
:Kaitoukage currently on Alterac Mountains

Class, Level, and Main Talent Spec.
:Mage, 85, Arcane

Armory Link
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Any alt characters, class, and levels that will need invites.
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All past guild names that you have been in.
Note: Please start with the last guild you were in and if you are a transfer to Argent Dawn Server, you must list the server you transferred from, and the guild there that you left.
Give the reason for leaving (or wanting to leave) your last (current) guild. If you do not want to disclose here, please note so, we can discuss this in game.
:Alterac mountains - Punish Alliance guild they had to much drama, Akatsuki Horde side they kicked me out cause i spent a week with my gf and didnt play but i did give them warning before hand, Swarm Horde side, raided with them in wrath on rogue but didnt lvl rogue first in cata so got kicked out lolz.

Your current age.
:19

List any guild members from BotB that you have grouped with. Be aware we will most likely ask those members their opinions of you.
(Mark if any of these members are sponsoring you.)
extermorgan

Give the reasons why you are looking to join (your goals) and any other background information that you feel might be relevant when joining.
:all the guilds on my realm raid from like 11pm to 4am and well i have work at 6am i need to be in bed by 12am at latest been friends with dex for years so when he found out i was looking he jumped on that pretty fast iv been playing since vanilla pretty much you name it iv downed in on one of my toons iv always had every class at cap lvl and best gear for each expac since BC i honestly havnt got to do much raiding in cata was to busy with work cause it came out at busy time of year but i have been up to cho'gal as tank heals and dps the only thing you might not like is that i like to go over refreshers on each fight before pull so that to make sure everyone knows what to do even if everyone has downed it 100+ times its better safe then sorry imo i only say this cause i have led a lot of raids in my day and have had bad expriance with the players that say they know the fight and dont want an explanation lol

2. You are mature, well rounded, and generally a drama free individual.
:mature yes most the time, well rounded you could say that, drama free for the most part and if i have a problem with something ill take it up in pm or talk to an officer drama isnt for gchat

3. You are not a "Keyboard Turner" and have mastered Camera and Mouse style movement.
I.E. You have mastered the art of jumping 360's while playing frogger in Naxxramas!
:well dont usually need a mouse i have a lot of keybinds but i do have one and know how to use it like a boss lol

4. You have a commanding grasp of your characters abilities and functions in game to the satisfaction of a BotB class leader who will assess you. Failure to perform to the expected standard will terminate your application.
:um i know every class but hunter just cant grasp the new hunter mechanics yet lol

5. You have a stable, high speed internet connection(green latency in game)and your computer normally runs WOW at least 40FPS or higher 99% of the time.
:i have 3 diff comps that i play on all of which have no lag problems

6. You are dedicated to maximizing your character and have the best possible enchants and gems in every socket.
:thats why im an enchanter =D

7. You have Ventrilo and a working headset with mic that you will be expected to use if required. In addition, you will have to be prepared to download, install, and become competent in the use of any mods, an officer or raid leader requires for the running of raids and guild activities, failure to comply quickly and efficiently is considered a serious breach of guild rules.
:yes i do

8. List any notable Arena, PvP, or Raiding experience you may have had.
:all vanilla raids, all BC raids, all wrath raids and most of the new content

9. If you are applying to join our raid, please provide a link to a World of Logs, WWS, or other logging site that shows you performing your primary spec in a 10 or 25 man raid. This is not optional for would-be raid recruits (in other words, do not apply for a raiding position if you cannot provide us with logs from your previous raids).
nly done BH on my mage pulled like crappy dps i was fresh 85 im working on gearing up i know arcane has low dps atm but with patch coming out soon will be good dps again i can do fire if needed i do good dps im just not fan of fires bad mana mechanics atm but hey 3% more damage buff for whole raid is still good imo

[Inrealm]

Yeah I know this loser of a mage....actually he pretty much tought me how to tank and.....well play wow for the most part. Now I am the master!!! Seriously though good pro player...been around for ever. highly recomend for blood's raid.



Cheers!! Dex

[Grizzlok]

Armory Link
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I can't get this link to work for some reason.

[Kaitoukage]

Armory Link
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I can't get this link to work for some reason.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/alterac-mountains/kaitoukage/simple

there you go =D lol not much to see though atm

[Bloodlorn]

You really need to put some more work into your gear. Your overall score is a bit low still with some 333's that need to be brought up to 346 minimum. Potentially some other rep rewards if I remember right. Crafted cloth gear as well?

Also in your gear I'm not sure that arcane is viable, but perhaps one of the mages can comment on that. I haven't followed it for a bit. Maybe they hotfixed it already, but I thought it was 4.1

[Kaitoukage]

You really need to put some more work into your gear. Your overall score is a bit low still with some 333's that need to be brought up to 346 minimum. Potentially some other rep rewards if I remember right. Crafted cloth gear as well?

Also in your gear I'm not sure that arcane is viable, but perhaps one of the mages can comment on that. I haven't followed it for a bit. Maybe they hotfixed it already, but I thought it was 4.1

ya my realm sucks and most my toons are tanks or healers so waiting for ques blows just to get in a group that will fail on first boss and as for my gear arcane is the only viable spec because as fire ya i do like 2 to 4k dps but all that is moot when im oom 10 seconds into the fight and am stuck spamming scorch fire requires you to have a high crit chance which i do not and i am working on crafted gear like i said on the first post and i dont want to sound rude but there really isnt anything you can tell me about my mage i dont already know i have looked into and tested everything have changed gems and enchants around the only thing holding me back is a guild to run roics with me so i can get rep epics and rest of my 346 gear

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Punctuation, use it.

Application is under review currently.

[Serrac]

What stats are you trying to prioritize? It seems from your reforges that mastery is of low importance, but then you've also gemmed for it, and also not picked up haste/crit pieces in slots which currently have haste/mastery pieces. Haste seems to be of prime importance, but you haven't reforged to it on pieces that don't have it and you've enchanted crit in place of it. Its impossible for me to tell how well you've optimized since there doesn't appear to be any secondary stat weighting. Does Arcane have a secondary stat weighting?

Also, in today's aoe damage a go-go setting, I'm not sure bypassing the points in Burning Soul is the best allocation of talents. There's certainly 3 superfluous points in your Arcane tree to fill that out. If you've got an argument why pushback isn't important I'm open to it, it just seems like an odd choice.

[Kentalsin]

Mastery is for arcane Serrac. Just saying. More than likely, and i could be wrong on this. Since he is not 346 all the way out hes probably got blend pieces between both specs and is trying to get away with itemizing a mid point between fire and arcane...... btw Your Under hit cap.

[Kaitoukage]

Mastery is for arcane Serrac. Just saying. More than likely, and i could be wrong on this. Since he is not 346 all the way out hes probably got blend pieces between both specs and is trying to get away with itemizing a mid point between fire and arcane...... btw Your Under hit cap.

Yes you are correct I'd accually like to get 2 sets of gear so I can maximize effectiveness for both specs I'm willing to work with you guys and make changes but I would also like to see statistics to back up why this would be better then what I'm doing already I know arcane is good utility because of the 3% damage buff and focus magic but I also know there is a lot of times when it would be better for me to be fire I try to be as flexible as I can be

[Meiun]

Being flexible is all well and good but if that means you are suffering dps loss because you are not maximazing one spec then it isnt worth it at all, also I dont see why you would run out of mana as fire, I currently play a fire mage and in a 5+ minute fight I end up with 0-30% mana at the end, and for the optimal damage output you want to just hit around 0 mana at the end of each fight, also the only time you should be scorch spamming is when oom which you shouldnt be unless you are using alot of AoE or when you are moving. Also about the gemming/enchanting/reforging I have said this before stick to one set/spec of gear and then build another set around another spec dont try to balance the two it hurts your dps more than it might seem, another thing Arcane is doable I have seen very decent numbers from arcane mages, they might not be as good as fire but they are not so bad that it is completely obvious. So if you like arcane more than fire gem/enchant/reforge around it. Also your Fire spec has some obvious flaws and should be fixed before you should raid with it, the most obvious is the talents into Improved Hot Streak, you should not have that if you cant get your crit above 30% I believe and then not talenting into Cauterize is another big thing, also Blazing speed is more towards PvP and instead should be dropped for at least 1 point into Clearcasting, that will also help with the mana issues.

[Kaitoukage]

Being flexible is all well and good but if that means you are suffering dps loss because you are not maximazing one spec then it isnt worth it at all, also I dont see why you would run out of mana as fire, I currently play a fire mage and in a 5+ minute fight I end up with 0-30% mana at the end, and for the optimal damage output you want to just hit around 0 mana at the end of each fight, also the only time you should be scorch spamming is when oom which you shouldnt be unless you are using alot of AoE or when you are moving. Also about the gemming/enchanting/reforging I have said this before stick to one set/spec of gear and then build another set around another spec dont try to balance the two it hurts your dps more than it might seem, another thing Arcane is doable I have seen very decent numbers from arcane mages, they might not be as good as fire but they are not so bad that it is completely obvious. So if you like arcane more than fire gem/enchant/reforge around it. Also your Fire spec has some obvious flaws and should be fixed before you should raid with it, the most obvious is the talents into Improved Hot Streak, you should not have that if you cant get your crit above 30% I believe and then not talenting into Cauterize is another big thing, also Blazing speed is more towards PvP and instead should be dropped for at least 1 point into Clearcasting, that will also help with the mana issues.

Ok well I guess u didn't read my last post very well since I said I'm going to be getting 2 sets of gear and fire only can last long if you have a high crit my gear I only have a 13% crit plus I'm not even close to hit cap so u need to take all that into factor

[Serrac]

Mastery is for arcane Serrac. Just saying. More than likely, and i could be wrong on this. Since he is not 346 all the way out hes probably got blend pieces between both specs and is trying to get away with itemizing a mid point between fire and arcane...... btw Your Under hit cap.

Yes you are correct I'd accually like to get 2 sets of gear so I can maximize effectiveness for both specs I'm willing to work with you guys and make changes but I would also like to see statistics to back up why this would be better then what I'm doing already I know arcane is good utility because of the 3% damage buff and focus magic but I also know there is a lot of times when it would be better for me to be fire I try to be as flexible as I can be

Well, let me put it to you then, what are you doing as far as secondary stats? I know what Kent thinks, but what is your rationale for making the choices you are?

Also, I'm not sure why fire wouldn't work just as well, you get about 15% crit in talents and glyphs alone, let alone the swap from Mage Armor to Molten. The 3% damage buff and FM are great utility true, but I'm just trying to feel out what your gear selection process is.

For example: you have +50 haste enchanted to your gloves. For similar cost you could have gotten 50 mastery, which I'm hearing is superior (albeit not from you). If haste is your focus, lets look to your bracers where you have 50 crit enchanted, when a 50 haste enchant is available and inexpensive. If crit is superior to mastery, you have a cloak that could be replaced using your Earthen Ring rep that has haste/crit on it instead of mastery.

These are the decisions I'm trying to piece out as far as secondary stat focus. I know you are planning on getting 2 sets, but in the interim wouldn't it behoove you to prioritize the main and get it as optimized as you can?

[Kaitoukage]

Mastery is for arcane Serrac. Just saying. More than likely, and i could be wrong on this. Since he is not 346 all the way out hes probably got blend pieces between both specs and is trying to get away with itemizing a mid point between fire and arcane...... btw Your Under hit cap.

Yes you are correct I'd accually like to get 2 sets of gear so I can maximize effectiveness for both specs I'm willing to work with you guys and make changes but I would also like to see statistics to back up why this would be better then what I'm doing already I know arcane is good utility because of the 3% damage buff and focus magic but I also know there is a lot of times when it would be better for me to be fire I try to be as flexible as I can be

Well, let me put it to you then, what are you doing as far as secondary stats? I know what Kent thinks, but what is your rationale for making the choices you are?

Also, I'm not sure why fire wouldn't work just as well, you get about 15% crit in talents and glyphs alone, let alone the swap from Mage Armor to Molten. The 3% damage buff and FM are great utility true, but I'm just trying to feel out what your gear selection process is.

For example: you have +50 haste enchanted to your gloves. For similar cost you could have gotten 50 mastery, which I'm hearing is superior (albeit not from you). If haste is your focus, lets look to your bracers where you have 50 crit enchanted, when a 50 haste enchant is available and inexpensive. If crit is superior to mastery, you have a cloak that could be replaced using your Earthen Ring rep that has haste/crit on it instead of mastery.

These are the decisions I'm trying to piece out as far as secondary stat focus. I know you are planning on getting 2 sets, but in the interim wouldn't it behoove you to prioritize the main and get it as optimized as you can?

Ok yet again ur basing your judgment on my current gear once I finish rep and roic geared out I'll then make that my main set and gem/enchant it for w/e spec the guild will need me as most as for now with 333 stuff on I'm not wasting money

[Serrac]

Ok yet again ur basing your judgment on my current gear once I finish rep and roic geared out I'll then make that my main set and gem/enchant it for w/e spec the guild will need me as most as for now with 333 stuff on I'm not wasting money

I guess what I'm judging is what you're doing right now as you get pieces. You are making conscious choices on what pieces to get from reps you have and what to enchant them with. Or you aren't, because you're looking to replace it. But in the interim I'm suggesting you could do better with what you have than you are self reporting. That's all, not meant as an attack or judgment.